#932 – Privacy

“You really should be careful about walking around in public with those.”

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17 thoughts on “#932 – Privacy”

  1. Tests says:

    It’s true. Walking around with any extraneous parts is extremely dangerous! The graveyards are full of people that were walking around with balls, or with boobs. And sometimes both!

  2. Voyager says:

    Can we all agree that stealing naked pictures of other people is wrong, and that taking naked pictures of yourself is stupid*?

    *Note that this exclude those people who genuinely are intending for the public at large to see their naked pictures, and even in that case, stealing them is still wrong, for an entirely different set of reasons.

    1. Jack says:

      Nope. It’s not stupid at all.

  3. d. says:

    So it’s “stupid” to take naked pictures of yourself for your own private use, or for the use of you and your partner(s)?

    That’s like saying it’s stupid to buy a house because someone might burgle it…

    Yeah, if you have naked pictures of yourself, it’s always a possibility someone could steal them, but then it’s their fault for being a thief and violating your privacy, **NOT** your fault for “being slutty” or whatever. People have a right to keep some things private!

    1. JIm says:

      The stupid part comes in when you store said pictures online. Go ahead take as many pictures as you want of whatever you want. But the same way you wouldn’t expect your wallet to be safely hidden in a stadium (or some other large public area) you shouldn’t expect your info to be safely stored online – unencrypted.

      I honestly don’t ever use DEBIT cards (credit cards are okay) online bec it’s too much of a hassle to deal with wrong charges. any private info is first encrypted before uploading or I simply don’t put it in the cloud.

      Also yeah part of the job of a celebrity is that you get more attention that most — if nudes of me somehow did exist and did appear online, no one would care bec I’m a nobody. But you’d better believe that if I became more famous I’d be a lot more cautious with my private property.

      All that being said: it’s totally wrong to steal ANYONE’s personal stuff and those who did this should be persecuted/caught and punished. (in both criminal and civil court)

      1. Chris Adams says:

        This particular case happens to have involved a cloud service but there are countless other examples of cases where people have lost data from private servers, from their personal computer when it was compromised or from their computer / phone / hard drive / etc. when they brought it into a repair shop and the technician stole the data.

        There are organized groups which target women and try to compromise their computers:

        http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/rat-breeders-meet-the-men-who-spy-on-women-through-their-webcams/

        Data theft is a recurring theme for Geek Squad:

        http://consumerist.com/2013/08/13/geek-squad-accused-of-stealing-distributing-customers-naked-photos-yes-again/

        (Want to be disturbed? Check out every forum ever where that’s discussed and notice how many former helpdesk techs take a “oh, yeah, that happens everywhere” tone.)

        Note that in all cases the actual security, much as the physical security of your building, stems from having laws which are enforced against these creeps. There are too many avenues for a determined attacker to reliably prevent this through technical means alone. Strong client-side encryption would be an improvement but it complicates sharing and increases the odds of data loss if someone picks a strong password but is ineffective if they don’t.

    2. natemare says:

      Well, its not necessarily stupid but it’s definitely not a wise thing to do especially if you decide on keeping the pictures for along time. I think it would be best to delete the pictures, then take them agian when the time arises. Also it is partially the picture owners fault for not keeping better care of there stuff, the only exception to this is if the phone/camera was left at home or in the car and stolen. But I suppose the owner shouldn’t have left it out in the open, if they did that is.

      1. Chuck Chuckerson says:

        Some of the stolen pictures WERE deleted, but not everyone knows how to make digital things actually disappear forever.

  4. Alden says:

    No, Voyager, I’m afraid we can’t agree. You get to take all the naked pictures of yourself that you want. It’s not only not stupid, it’s also totally 100% OK!

    Stealing them, however, is indeed completely wrong and deserves ALL the nut-kicking. Metaphorically speaking, of course.

    1. Voyager says:

      You’ve got to understand, I had a couple of great uncles who would take walks in the bad parts of town with their week’s pay in cash hanging out of their pockets.

      Was that wise? Well, they were doing it so they could get mugged and beat the ever living tar out of the muggers.

      If you intentionally put yourself in a vulnerable position, someone is going to try and take advantage of it. “I had the right of way,” makes a marvelous tombstone, but it’s still a tombstone.

  5. boog says:

    To be fair, if I know there are lots of people out there who are persistently seeking an opportunity to gain unlawful access to my unprotected balls for the sole purpose of kicking them, it would certainly be foolish of me to put my balls right out there for their kicking pleasure.

    But I generally try not to give people reasons to want to kick my balls in the first place.

    1. Corrine says:

      That’s funny, because I suddenly have the urge to kick them. Hard. FIFA soccer goal hard.

      You’re placing the burden on the victim rather than the criminal. It shouldn’t be considered “foolish” to live your personal life separate from your work life. It is, however, foolish to commit sex crimes, among others.

      1. boog says:

        “That’s funny, because I suddenly have the urge to kick them. Hard. FIFA soccer goal hard.”

        And now I’ll keep them protected whenever you are near. The system works again!

        “You’re placing the burden on the victim rather than the criminal.”

        How exactly would you place a burden on the criminal?

        It’s unrealistic to expect that people who don’t respect anyone’s privacy will respect your privacy. That’s not blaming the victim, that’s just admitting that jerks are jerks. Some people are jerks – we’ve known this for a while now?

        That’s why we have security. Unfortunately, some jerks are persistent. So then we have better security. But some jerks still won’t stop. And so on until… yes, in the end there is a (in some cases, tremendous) burden that falls on the victim. And it sucks, absolutely. But until we have a solution to stop all the jerks (ball-kicking is a viable candidate), that’s just the reality we live in.

        “It shouldn’t be considered ‘foolish’ to live your personal life separate from your work life.”

        I agree with you 100%. But I would surely call it foolish to trust people who aren’t trustworthy, or to assume everyone is trustworthy.

        “It is, however, foolish to commit sex crimes, among others.”

        You’re conflating foolishness with immorality. It’s immoral to commit sex crimes – it’s foolish to just trust that no one on earth will. That’s why we have security mechanisms in place to prevent these things (harsh laws, public shaming, etc.).

  6. Jenny says:

    Totally agree with this comic, Chris. People are entitled to take as many nude pictures of themselves as they want, and if they were meant for private use (and were actually freaking protected by passwords and actually freaking *encripted* but immoral hackers are persistent jackasses that will keep at it until they break this encription) there is no reason why anyone should feel entitled to see them. Which is why I haven’t clicked on any of the links to see those pictures, nor will I ever, despite the fact that I do find some of the people in those pictures attractive. Those pictures weren’t sent to me, I’m not allowed to look at them. Period.

    And yes, those people that stole those pictures and those that feel entitled to look at them just because they were uploaded to the internet (without their owners’ consent) deserve to have their genitalia kicked. Repeatedly.

  7. Falos says:

    If you share a secret with someone, whether it’s your first crush or a mission-critical company trade secret, you get an agreement of nondisclosure. Otherwise, all bets are off, and it’s your “fault” for revealing the secret to the public.

    You could argue that sharing with the cloud in a non-public area (“private” section) is such a disclosure, and I’d sympathize morally but not legally. Only premium clouds will claim that their hosting is a private area, and they’ll be responsible for it. Think medical records.

    That only excuses Apple’s disclosure though. Apple could do whatever they want with the pictures, but Apple didn’t put the pictures on a public-facing site or anything, so the infiltrators can be charged with hacking into nonpublic data.

    I’ll repeat for clarity.

    Any “share” (lol snapchat) of a secret (data) with any human or business puts the data In The Wild (at the recipient’s discretion) if it’s done without conditions.

    The pictures weren’t nonpublic just yet. Apple (could have but) didn’t make any such discretion and it was still private data (at the disclosure of either party.)

  8. Azkyroth says:

    You know, I really appreciate this; it used to be that even webcomic artists I enjoyed were very reliably either on the wrong side of social justice issues (especially issues of misogyny, far more so than racism or homophobia), or would adopt a Stupid Neutral stance.

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